Ok. ONE last try to post a grateful thank you.

I’m very thankful that you created this site and that you have devoted so much time to it. You serve a very important purpose and you fill a niche that very few have cared to fill. thanks!

First of all, I am very appreciative of all the hard work you have done in creating and maintaining this site. This is the single best and most meaningful site I have ever encountered in my life. I’ve always wished I could somehow improve the way that asian americans are portrayed in the media but alas, I am just a regular student with no mass forum whatsoever.

washingtonpost.com: Asian Groups Fight to Change Eatery’s Name (Post, April 15)

Howard Kurtz: Uh — by quoting people about Chink’s restaurant?

“It’s definitely a derogatory term,” said Ginny Gong, national president of the Organization of Chinese Americans, one of several groups pressing for the restaurant to change its name. “. . . Maybe there is this feeling that Asian Americans will not express some degree of outrage. But we are outraged that there is this comfort level.”

I know it’s hard work but I hope you will keep this up and continue to do your good work because you are needed!

I just saw the most racist article on Mcclatchy that not only mocked an online petition for non-racist reporting by CNN but it also irresponsibly connected Asian Americans who don’t want to be targets of racism with hardline communists against tibet. Whatever one’s stance on tibet is, it is the height of media bias when they select all chinese people for ridicule.

The focus is on building churches and how much you give to the church. For example the Korean church care first and foremost about church and mission work. Go to any Korean church and you will find that. Shoot this article is about building 500 Korean- American churches in the future.

The problem with this is that it does not really develop true thinking of a generation of leaders. The church teaches them to accept compliance in their role in life. I should know because I used to been a former church goer.

What they ought to do is focus on true community growth by getting involve in local community problems instead of staying locked or busy building churches. Granted the bible mention that the church is important but if I remember correctly Jesus went out to seek the corrupt because they needed the help the most.

I just find allot of Korean Christian build the church as a wall to fend off the outside world. Don’t believe me. Talk to any Korean Christian goer and judge for yourself.

Did you get my message about my idea for an editorial concerning Asian American’s vs America’s of Asian descent?

Below is the email I wrote. If can use it as a template, if you wish:

mailto:support@bustedtees.com

Subject:T-Shirt with Chinese Food togo box and “Where My Dogs At?” Beneath it

Hello BustedTees,

I recently ran into your website where I found this web page:

http://www.bustedtees.com/wheremydogsat

It appears to have a Chinese food togo box with the phrase “Where My Dogs At?” beneath it. Speaking as an American of Chinese descent, I was a little bothered by this t-shirt. To the best of my knowledge, I don’t think I’ve known any American, regardless of their heritage, to have eaten dog before.

If at all possible, can you please stop advertising and selling this product? I believe that it might send the wrong message. Thank you for your attention.

-Tony Koo

somebody give him a slap in the face and wake him up.

I haven’t shopped at abercrombie since the tshirt incident.

Let him make his crappy nihilistic music. Let his supporters buy his crap. Let them continue to wallow in their collective perceived victimization at the hands of whites and Asians.

People like ice-whatshisface do not have a sense of personal responsibility. Everything is always somebody ELSE’S fault. Or perhaps it’s a result of “the man” holding down the black man.

His mentality is exactly what is holding blacks behind in this nation. The reason that blacks are overrepresented in jail, have more teen pregnancy and STDS is because they idolize people like ice-whatever. He should give himself a pat on the back for his good work. Instead of helping black america, he is convincing his people to continue their vicious cycle.

luckily, most of us are not a pathetic excuse for a human being like Yi.

Birds of a feather flock together. There IS a reason those two got married.

This DJ is so racist that if he ever had a son with Yi (and I pity this child), he’d call his son “rice pickle” to his face.

No normal man would marry a psycho like her. She’s so uneducated…so…ugh…trite. Her occupation is to look stupid and slutty so it’s only natural she’d be married to a man who’s drawn to such “advertisements”.

can you imagine any respectable man, of ANY ethnicity, lowering themselves to marrying her? one night stand maybe…..if they dared to risk contracting her STDs.

Hell, she makes me embarrassed to be the same species as her.

I’ve never met a more deluded and brainwashed person in my life. Is she a product of some cult?

I bet she harbors some major self loathing.

It’s pathetic that he’s so threatened by people who are smarter, more educated, and richer than him.

He deserves as much attention as a piece of crap on the ground.

BTW, the DJ’s “asian wife” needs to divorce him.

are you offended robert? jeez. it’s just a joke. Get over it.

Frankly, i wouldn’t even watch it if it was free because my time is priceless.

Just because he claims to be doesn’t mean he is. He’s just some lonely pathetic bored guy who’s so starved for attention that he’ll even take negative attention.

And miranda is a prick. I hope he got his face bashed in.

I briefly skimmed Smith’s blog and it was like the writings of a feverish madman.

Intelligent people should stop feeling compelled to educate every moron they encounter. Sometimes, a stupid person just isn’t worth the time.

Use ur time on someone who’s opinion might actually change.

Why would these people adopt this little girl if they weren’t willing to see her as one of their own? And since they already HAVE biological children, why did they choose to adopt this girl and in the process, deprive this girl from an adoptive family that actually WANTS her?

Did these dutch ppl think a little asian girl is some sort of cute collectible? Something to be discarded when it’s no longer fashionable to have?

These ppl are pricks and the should be sterile.

The people who are wasting so much energy on trying to pressure china into pressuring sudan to let up on darfur should cut out the middle man. How about these ppl direct their energy directly at the nation of sudan?

We don’t jail the friends of criminals. Period. Besides, i don’t believe there is a single nation in the world who can make Sudan change it’s ways. Africa has been under the yoke of corrupt governments for far too long. It’s time for the africans to step up and help themselves. They can’t rely on other nations forever. Change cannot come from the outside. change comes from the within. And the international community will only be all too happy to help a nation that’s attempting to better itself.

Either way, i’m glad I didn’t watch rush hour 3. Chris tucker is not my fav actor because his voice grates on my nerves.

In my opinion, the biggest enemy of the black community is their refusal to accept personal responsibility and instead, is always casting blame on others (”the man”). When one refuses to acknowledge one’s own mistakes, when others continue to rationalize a person’s mistakes, then the society at whole loses a chance to learn from a mistake.

Whoopi feels she’s in the right to say such defamatory things about asians because the unfortunate fact is that people are more concerned with PC when it comes to blacks than they are with whites. Also, Whoopi does not believe that asian americans have the ability to punish her for her words, as we’re relatively few in numbers(?)

Regardless of whether or not some asians eat dogs (and africans eat monkeys. That’s how the aids virus was introduced into humanity), consumption of meat is NOT a crime.

Someone needs to tell whoopi that in this country, there is such a thing as law and order. No matter what subculture a person is from (in vick’s case, the south), we all must follow the same rule of law. Dog fighting is illegal and inhuman and there is no way that Vick does not know this.

Someone needs to tell whoopi that in this country, we eat chicken, but we do not allow cock fights.

I’m sorry about not responding earlier about the article. I do have some idea as to what I’d like to write, but I’d like to check it with you first.
It’s about the title “Asian American”. Most reading this, most people focus on “Asian” first and “American” second. I’d like to write something about how we should switch that around. I’d rather project the idea of being American but of Asian descent.
Sometimes I get flack from people because they assume that I’m trying to be white since that’s what most people picture when they see the term “American”. That’s not what I’m saying at all.
The way I see it, WE have to be the ones who define what “American” really means. We can’t just accept what others tell we are. If they say that we don’t “look American”, then WE need to challenge them. Most Asian Americans have lived here most, if not all their lives. We work here, we study here, we’re citizens here, we pay taxes here, we speak english…we deserve the right to call ourselves American. If others (even other Asian Americans) want to challenge that, then we have to draw our borders and defend it.

The bottom line is this. If people want to push us out of what’s rightfully ours, then we need to push back and take it.

-Tony

Our community waxes ad nauseum on how invisible we are in mainstrem culture yet when one of our children is viciously beaten in a racist attack we don’t seem to pay attention. We are invisible to ourselves and eachother. Why should we expect the mainstream to notice us when we don’t notice our own?

Isn’t speaking out against this kind of racism and support for it’s victims one of the main purposes of Asian “activism”?

I think if ***, then maybe they’d fear us.

Step on a lever, “Freedom of speech”, insert applause

Step on a lever, “It’s satire.”, insert applause.

Step on a lever, “What race hasn’t been attacked…”, insert applause.

People don’t read the news anymore, they memorize sound bites to make themselves sound clever. Journalists don’t write news anymore, they just regurgitate and vomit a press release.

What happened on Campus Press is a microcosm of all that is wrong with mainstream media.

I expect Campus Press to produce stories that are well written and well articulated, rather than poorly written and barely though out. I expect Campus Press to care more about truth, accuracy and relevance than controversy, edginess, and publicity. I expect Campus Press to strive to produce A-list journalists instead of D-list wannabes.

Are they marketers, or journalists?

This is not about free speech. It doesn’t matter if it’s funny. It doesn’t even matter that it’s racist. Mein Kompf is racist, but at least Hitler articulated his point well.

The question is, is this good writing? Is this good journalism.

I am for free speech all across the board. But as a journalist and staff writer, as an operative of the fourth estate, Karson and crew have the RESPONSIBLITY to write well.

If it were a schmoe like me that wrote the article, it’s one thing. He is a staff writer. He is a journalist (or at least he thinks he is one).

I fault Karson for not writing a BETTER piece.

I fault the editor for not knowing the difference good writing and bad writing.

But I don’t think anyone needs to be suspended or fired. If they voluntarily quit, however, I think that would put faith back into the Campus Press.

As I walked out of the UMC, and let my eyes adjust to the light, someone from behind me slammed into me. It was Cassie Hewlings, the editor of the Campus Press, dressed like a Kittredge duckling

“I’m sorry, quack, quack,” she said. Her eyes focused away from me.

I turned around and there was a mob of Korean students running toward her. Well, they looked Korean anyway.

“I’M SORRY! Quack, quack.” she exclaimed as she ran off, “I’m sorry! Quack, quack. I’m sorry! Double-quack.”

The mob of Koreans chased after her, still holding their fingers in their ears. I stopped one of them. She pulled her fingers out of her ears.

“Why do you have fingers in your ears?” I asked.

“Because we don’t trust her words anymore,” she said, and then continued the chase.

I walk over to a newsstand, and noticed all the copies of the Campus Press newspapers were gone. I go to another stand. Gone. Then I noticed a large pile of Campus Press newspapers sitting in the recycling bin. There were several days’ worth in there, and none of them had been read.

I pulled one out, and I noticed there were no advertisements. On top of that, all the articles were about the same topic, but just different tones. They looked like they were all authored by different people, but then I just realized the names were just anagrams of the same name. The subject matter was closet space efficiency.

A Japanese-looking student walked by, and dumped more Campus Press newspapers into the bin.

“Why are you throwing these away?” I inquired.

“Because we don’t trust their words anymore,” she explained. That’s when I noticed a whole line of Japanese students who have come to recycle the trash. Gotta love Japanese efficiency.

I walked outside, and noticed a podium at the end of the UMC fountain, which happened to be filled with some kind of Kool-Aid. A bunch of Vietnamese students were standing in front of the podium with their ears duct taped. I don’t know how I knew they were Vietnamese considering their eyes were also covered in duct tape, but some how, I just knew. We always know.

Then I saw Max Karson go up to the podium. Karson admired his audience for a second, lowered the mic, and turned around. Karson bent over, and grabbed hold of his cheeks to spread them apart.

Everything then started to spin.

His anus began to speak:

“When I wrote my Pulitzer Prize winning satire, I was speaking for the Asian people because God knows they don’t know enough English to speak for themselves. I know what it’s like to be an Asian. Correction, Asian-American. I love pho, kung-fu movies, and Japanese bondage. I didn’t need to interview anyone. That would have made me a common journalist. I’m above that. I know what’s it’s like to be an Asian-American. I know their pain and suffering first hand. I grew up as an Asian-American. I AM ASIAN-AMERICA! So I don’t owe Asian-Americans an apology. If anything, Asian-Americans owe me an apology…as soon as they pass their ESL classes.”

I got so dizzy, I had to take my fingers put them in my ears, and shut my eyes.

I was walking out of Illegal Pete’s the other day, when I happened to see Max Karson come out of the women’s restroom.

I didn’t say anything. I figured Max Karson has a right to do what he wants. It’s not like he’s violated an actual law. So I decided to do the stereotypical Asian thing, and just keep my opinion to myself.

“Hey, aren’t you Max Karson?” I asked.

“Wow, I’m so glad you recognized me. I’ve worked very hard to get recognized in public,” Max bragged.

“So…where ya headed Max?” Not that I actually cared. Just making polite conversation.

“Well, coincidentally, I’m off to buy a dog,” giving me a little nudge.

“What do you mean, ‘coincidentally’?” I nudged back.

“You’re people are experts on dog, no?”

I was about to say something, but then I decided he had a right to his opinion, and once again, I decided to do the stereotypical thing, and just keep my opinion to myself.

“Why are you getting a dog?” I diverted.

“Well, let me ask you this: do you think if I put peanut butter where the sun don’t shine, and made the puppy lick me, would that be controversial?”

Did he really ask me that? I couldn’t have heard that correctly. How would one not know if that would be controversial?

“Sure,” I said in my most non-judgmental voice. After all, he’s only talking about it. It’s not like he’s actually going to do this, right? It’s just talk. So, he has the right to say what he is or is not going to do. So I said nothing.

“So you think it would get a lot of attention?” Max asked.

“Definitely. Especially with that recent Arvada dog case,” I said.

“What dog case?”

“You know. Rolo, the German shepherd that might get euthanized?”

It’s been all over the papers. I don’t even own a dog, and I know about it. Hmm. I guess we do know a lot about dogs.

Max just had a blank look on his face. Then his face lit up as if he had just reached enlightenment.

“That’s perfect!” he exclaimed, “I can say it’s a satire about putting animals down. And it’ll get a lot of press, which means more people will know about me,” he explained.

I was going to tell him that perhaps he should rethink his position, but that would be self-righteous of me, wouldn’t it? I mean, it’s just satire, right? It’s not like he actually DID anything. It’s just talk, right?

Max turned around and went back into the women’s restroom, “I need to talk to my editor.”

I wanted to stop him, but who am I to tell him what’s right and what’s wrong? He’s entitled to his opinion. It’s not like he actually DID anything. He’s just talking for now, right?

So I decided to do the stereotypical Asian thing, and just keep my opinion to myself.

Step on a lever, “Freedom of speech”, insert applause

Step on a lever, “It’s satire.”, insert applause.

Step on a lever, “What race hasn’t been attacked…”, insert applause.

People don’t read the news anymore, they memorize sound bites to make themselves sound clever. Journalists don’t write news anymore, they just regurgitate and vomit a press release.

What happened on Campus Press is a microcosm of all that is wrong with mainstream media.

I expect Campus Press to produce stories that are well written and well articulated, rather than poorly written and barely though out. I expect Campus Press to care more about truth, accuracy and relevance than controversy, edginess, and publicity. I expect Campus Press to strive to produce A-list journalists instead of D-list wannabes.

Are they marketers, or journalists?

This is not about free speech. It doesn’t matter if it’s funny. It doesn’t even matter that it’s racist. Mein Kompf is racist, but at least Hitler articulated his point well.

The question is, is this good writing? Is this good journalism.

I am for free speech all across the board. But as a journalist and staff writer, as an operative of the fourth estate, Karson and crew have the RESPONSIBLITY to write well.

If it were a schmoe like me that wrote the article, it’s one thing. He is a staff writer. He is a journalist (or at least he thinks he is one).

I fault Karson for not writing a BETTER piece.

I fault the editor for not knowing the difference good writing and bad writing.

But I don’t think anyone needs to be suspended or fired. If they voluntarily quit, however, I think that would put faith back into the Campus Press.

And, given the African American overwhelming support for Obama, no one is complaining that they are racist or sexist against Clinton.

As well as hispanic voters, who have overwhelmingly voted for Clinton. Are they racist against blacks?

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Let’s remind ourselves about the biggest impact to our culture in the last decade. It had nothing to do with America. If anything…Russian maybe. It was the Cultural Revolution of Communism that had completely destroyed our Chinese filial tradition. General Mao had created what I would call a massive brainwash to all Chinese that started in 1966. The famous “reactionary bourgeois authorities” had done tremendous damage to the country as well as our traditional idealism. During the revolution, People that had owned business lost everything; scholars, artist and teachers were tortured by their students; parents were disrespected or persecuted by their own children. General Moa made children to fight for him. He made them the Red Guards. Children stopped getting proper education and left home to spread this new social idea everywhere in the country. They were encouraged to speak their mind and fight for a concept that was completely questionable at the time. The country was in complete chaos. Production ceased. People suffered. It was ten years of tragedy. That was almost forty years ago. Now those Red Guards that had marched on the street shouting phrases that had disrespected their elderly are getting old. They weren’t filial to their parents and good to assume they had not teach their children the tradition that could only be savaged in countries that was not affected by Communism. Now that communication is more opened, Chinese in other countries like Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia or city like Hong Kong are bringing back some of the tradition. Chinese in China finally had a chance to learn about it through movies and mass media but they could only envy. They are growing old bitterly and know they will have to deal with the result of what they have done 30 years ago. They can’t depend on their children that don’t know the concept and they had no choice but to take care of themselves. Unfortunately elderly or seniors are not respected under the class-free socialistic system, they couldn’t compete with the younger and more educated generation and they were left behind, poor and jobless. Some of them had the opportunities to move to America through immigration. They were willing to do anything to survive. Some of them told me they used to be doctors or manager of a government department. They were pushed to retire…with nothing after working their whole lives. In some ways, I pitied them even though, they are the ultimate cause of the destruction but they were the victims too. I happened to know many of them. Most of them had taken part in this ridiculous revolution and had regretted about it but they actually had no idea what had been destroyed. I think it is important for Chinese to learn about our modern history to understand the real cause of our evolution with the correct perspective.

I really hope many Asian-Americans who are bilingual take full advantage of this opportunity to help others trying to make it in our Asian communities.

I wish I can do it but my Chinese is really shitty. Otherwise I swear I would get involved and give of my resources and time towards this. Maybe in the years to come as I gain proficiency. . . . .

If this case results in a conviction, it will send the message that such corporations can mistreat Filipino employees AND GET AWAY WITH IT! Is that what we want?

If there were an Asian mob that asserted its influence in matters like this, the racist conspirators would never have dared to bring a case against these Filipino nurses.

If there were such a mob, here is a list of the racist conspirators whose fingers would be in jeopardy:
Howard Fensterman - SentosaCare lawyer
Benjamin Landa of Brooklyn - owner/operator
Bent Philipson of Monsey, N.Y. - owner/operator
Susan O’Connor - Avalon administrator/witness
Thomas J. Spota - Suffolk district attorney.
Charles Schumer - Chairman of Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which received $75,000 from SentosaCare associates

If that’s the case, I hope those writers starve to death.

Nice job, Jen Phang.

Whereas Chinese citizens enjoy farrrrrr better lives and more rights…yet still get painted as human rights abusers.

Talk about complete asymmetrical coverage. And the only reason why you can’t see it is because you are completely brainwashed, like everyone else. In particular, Chinese males have a VERY hard time thinking for themselves outside of the box. Which is why they are in such a horrific position today.

I will never support this hypocritical campaign. Never.

(just my humble opinion which, along with a buck and a smile may get you a cup of coffee at Mickey D’s)

And OF COURSE it is an Asian GIRL.

As USUAL, Asian MALES are excluded, marginalized and defocused upon. Everything revolves around the WOMAN’S WORLD - starting at childhood. Asian men are nothing but ghosts - and any visibility is only granted when usefully subservient to Asian women.

Wo BU hao!

To use an analogy, when African American males began affectionately referring to each other as n****rs, it was after they had established dominance in the streets, the schools, and the clinks.
In other words, they can use that word amongst themselves but you better not.

In our case though, we’re getting spanked in the streets, the schools, and luckily we’re so obedient that we rarely find ourselves in the clink.
So when ppl start saying “Yellow Man” followed by a “hey that’s a clothing line, I can say that”, are we in a position to squash that?

The Western kids previously only had “ah so”, “aii yahh”, “ching chong”, and the bowing gesture to belittle Asian kids. Now they’ll have a whole arsenal of terminology at their disposal.

The Western adults who think they’re clever used to only be able say “ni hao” (or “konnichiwa” (sp?)) to you thinking you’ll be impressed by their knowledge can now bore you with more bad Chinese.

Other than the fact that now we can make fun of their accents like they have for generations of our parents’, could some of the knowledgeable folks on this forum please explain to me how this helps APAs?

The alleged $.75/$1.00 wage gap is actually a false claim based upon false comparisons of false “comparable worth” positions. In fact, you will find most feminist “stats” to be abhorrent unscientific distortions fabricated simply to further their agenda.

Some studies, for example, have suggested that secretaries and truck drivers are “comparable” jobs. Both involve long periods of sitting, similar amounts of training, and repetitive tasks. Therefore, it is argued, the pay of secretaries (a female-dominated occupation) should be equal to the pay of truck drivers (a male-dominated occupation).

The average wage gap is not proof of widespread discrimination, but of women making choices about their educational and professional careers in a society where the law has granted them equality of opportunity to do so. Comparable worth promotes a dependence for women, and a reliance on government for protection. Given women’s achievements, such dependence is unnecessary. American women enjoy historically unparalleled success and freedom, and the progress they have made in the past half century will continue. - Diana Furchtgott-Roth, April 12, 1999 testimony before the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission

Fellas, you have a LOT to learn about feminism… And better not to get this info from feminists - who will NOT give you the real story!!!

Are you sure about that? Actually black gangs started and soared in the 70s after discrimination against Blacks went down dramatically after the 60s Civil Rights Era. Without Whites holding Blacks back in check and LBJ’s Great Society writing welfare checks, Black women then started pumping out daddyless babies in unprecedented numbers, leading to the formation of gangs and gang crime/violence. The hip-hop generation also felt untouchable because they could always play the race card to scapegoat all their misdeeds on. Basically, Black-Americans are now reverting to their ancestral African behavior.

Alright, I’m sorry the Jewish media portrays Asian women as submissive and sex starved while it portrays Asian men as sexually impotent nerds and one track minded martial artists. Trust me, we whites have as much reason to hate the Jews as Asians, but sadly too many YTs are too god damn caught up in their Christian fundamentalist, Zionist Israel loving ways.

On the other hand, regardless of what Bollyhood tries to shove down the throat of Westerners as the standard of beauty, I do tend to view women of east/southeast Asian descent as the best looking. Now while it’s unfortunate women like Natasha Yi, Tila Tequila, and Kaila Yu present themselves in a way that pander to the cracker’s “exotic” fantasies, you have to admit… they are DAYUM FINE.

No seriously, to me acting white as an asian just means that you don’t know anything about your ancestors country in terms of language, tradition, pride, etc.; so everytime you happen to be around grown ups you are irritated and get mad (at yourself) about that, ergo you distance yourself from “those people” and hang out with whites who look more uncomplicated.

What the heck does “acting white” mean to an Asian person? We’re already stereotyped as studious, and I don’t think speaking properly would make an Asian person think they were acting white. So what does this even mean?

We both want racial reconciliation, we just disagree on the roots and solutions to present problems.

We need more AA’s representing in journalism and other facets of the media.

-William Lee

I’m tired of non-Asians trying to post articles on the Asian-American experience like they know anything. Like as if we cant take care of ourselves. No thanks. I don’t need your help to tie my shoelaces and wipe my @$$.

We need more AA’s representing in journalism and other facets of the media.

Yes. The surge of crime in the Afro-American community is the result of hundreds of years of discrimination. So I don’t agree with you there.

Statistics don’t tell the whole story of WHY things are the way that they are. It just stats. And it may not even be accurate anyway.

Back to the topic though, I think It’s a good thing we have the civil rights activists to keep the cops and the media in check. Need tissues to wipe away the rest of the tears?

Perhaps you shouldn’t base all your views on your personal experience getting herbed and robbed everyday by wilding black youth when you was in HS or whatever. Take that to your psychologist, not on a APA race relations website. Please start thinking out of the box, take off the blindfold, and see things for what they really are.

I thought this website was the place to discuss race relations without censorship. Because, if you ask someone to not say something because it’s offensive, they’re going to flee to the white supremacy message boards and the path to racial reconciliation becomes even more convoluted.

If you have an “out of the box” perspective I’d love to hear it. Based on traveling around the world (SE Asia, Latin America, Europe) the United States is probably the LEAST racist of these countries. Minority oppression rationalizations just don’t fly.

All you have to do is look at crime statistics . The average African American incarceration and crime rate is 6-8 times that of the average white. Do you really think that is the result of discrimination?

I think it’s a painful reminder that rather than deny stereotypes, we have to confront their validity.

Back to the topic, though, I think that the media thinks they can’t get as much attention publicizing anti-Asian police tactics compared with those against other minority groups.

Why did both the police officers and news reports fail to mention that!?

There’s always 2 sides to every story. We shouldn’t be ardent supporters of one side or the other. And don’t take me for a hypocrite. I’m not arguing for Anna’s foster parents. I’m just stating your obvious bias for one party over the other.

Possibly many of you dog house bashers need to visit the bay area. The majority here is mexican & asian.

So when you write your comments as if your speaking to a “hill billy redneck” Maybe you should realize who their fans are.

While on the west coast appx 20% of their audience was asian. I know this because I am a fan & used to go to the clubs that they hosted. (Im not asian)

They are back on the west coast, and the west coast asian community has their backs. And they dont speak well about the OCA. Maybe YOU should listen to the people you so called stand up for.

And east coast asians should learn to laugh a little.

Many minority men (black and Hispanic) may be doing well with short term relationships and one night stands but because of how poorly they are doing economically, many will not be able to marry and/ or support families, esp. if it involves another female of color.

However White men on the other hand, (and most Asian women for that matter) are doing well economically. It is possible for them to succeed in marriage and in raising families. (Of course they are not oppressed in the same way as other persons of color and sex are) This one of many reasons (aside from racist/sexist stereotypes and fetishism) why an interracial dating/marriage disparity problem exists between WM’s and AF’s . Economic success , though undeserved, since they are not under the same pressure as men of color, particularly AM’s .

But I do agree with the fact that the special interest groups influencing the political and economic systems and the media in this country will stop at nothing to try to confuse this vital subject even more.

But I really don’t think the Black civil rights activists are speaking out against rational police actions, just the irrational ones.

Unjustified racial profiling against blacks continues to be a big problem in this country. You know that.

It’s a good thing we have the civil rights activists to keep the cops and the media in check.

Not only should my people boycott Chinese capital, they ought to boycott Chinese.

Tell ‘em to stay home and make China better place. Surely they are not required to leave to make good, are they?

It isn’t 1850 anymore is it? China is a wonderful place for the Chinese to expend their efforts and dedicate their lives.

I figure it is time for Americans to come home to America and Chinese to go home to China.

Surely China would be a paradise on earth within just a handful of years if that happened.

With 3500 years of civilization under their belt, Chinese in China would transform the globe and make hte white man beg for mercy.

So go home, “make aliyah” (as the Jews put it), and rise up from the filth, degradation and oppression you experience so acutely here in the West.

I am sure we honkies will suffer a thousand deaths without you helping us in America, but lets face it, we deserve it.

Hell, tell me your bank account and I will send you some cash to your going home fund so you can return to the Middle Kingdom and find true fulfillment and enlightenment wth you own race.

-死鬼老

Let me ask you a question: Why are you learning Chinese ? Because you have a sincere interest in the culture, or because you just want to score on Asian women like this is a game ?

If the latter is the answer, then you really should’nt be learning the language to begin with. Amirite? Go get over the yellow fever first, then think about learning the language.

I think this fiery discussion was very necessary because of the instigators who continue to comment on this site expressing their subtle yet throat cutting, bigoted views and hate towards Asian Americans who continue to voice out with truth and conviction.

Expect more flame wars in the future, you trolls need us to knock sense into your thick heads.

-John Smith

I disagree. Many minority men (black and Hispanic) may be doing well with short term relationships and one night stands but because of how poorly they are doing economically, many will not be able to marry and/ or support families, esp. if it involves another female of color.

However White men on the other hand, (and most Asian women for that matter) are doing well economically. It is possible for them to succeed in marriage and in raising families. (Of course they are not oppressed in the same way as other persons of color and sex are) This one of many reasons (aside from racist/sexist stereotypes and fetishism) why an interracial dating/marriage disparity problem exists between WM’s and AF’s . Economic success , though undeserved, since they are not under the same pressure as men of color, particularly AM’s .

But I do agree with the fact that the special interest groups influencing the political and economic systems and the media in this country will stop at nothing to try to confuse this vital subject even more.

-John Smith

I agree. Let’s hope the APA activists can bring this issue to the forefront as to becoming a significant issue in the years to come.

-John Smith

True, there is a plague of Afro-American crime paranoia affecting the media (I’m suprised that you can even understand that much) ….

….but I really don’t think that the Black Civil Rights activists are working against RATIONAL police actions. Irrational actions in the form of racial profiling on the part of cops occur as an natural everyday occurring phenomonon. You should consider it a blessing that we have Civil Rights activists to keep the police and the biased media in check. I guess you are intelligent enough to understand that ,but of course, in denial of the truth as usual.

Perhaps you should’nt base all your views on your personal experience getting herbed and robbed everyday by wilding black youth when you was in HS or whatever. Take that to your psychologist, not on a APA race relations website. Please start thinking out of the box, take off the blindfold, and see things for what they really are.

Don’t blame Anglo-man. It’s also african american crime paranoia in our media that has made them too tired to report cases like these because they’re busy following Al Sharpton every time he speaks out against rational police actions.

One AF I know , I have a deep respect for because of her keen awareness of APA issues even as she was in this country for only four years ….. She is living on a student visa and is struggling to make ends meet. In a discussion I recently had with her, she said that she could find a WM to marry and solve her US citizenship problem right away and sell herself out, BUT she will not because she still views herself as a woman of self worth and dignity. She can prostitute herself very easily as an Asian woman, BUT she refuses to because of her morals and concern for how others will view herself and other AF’s. I was very impressed by her statements and it got me thinking.

There are many other AM’s andf AF’s that share the same viewpoint, myself included.

I agree totally with Snowball and AsianAmericanPride, you both brought out excellent points I can relate with.

You think Connie Chung or Anna Chang would do a story on this? Hell no. Asians are either too busy sucking YT’s dik or cowering in fear and burying their heads in the sand. Nobody wants to get involved or rock the boat. Just keep quiet, keep their heads down, and keep slaving away for money and food.

Maybe she and the wife of JV of “Elvis & JV” should get together and have an anti-Asian pow-wow.

I don’t understand how carlos mencia and dave chapelle can say whatever about race, and it is considered funny.

Plain and simple, anyone who labels my brother racist or hateful is wrong. And all you are doing is placing a hardship on someone who’s job it was to be funny. Look at how many people have reproduced that prank call, is it because they HATE asians? doubt it. My girlfriend is Vietnamese, I thought the prank call ( which was a computer voice ) was funny.

The reason people laugh at stereotypes unfortunately is because they are true… I happen to be WHITE, I like Macaroni and Cheese, I eat Meatloaf too, Can’t dance for shit and my dad watches Nascar… Coincidence? Nope I must hate white peoples shut your stupid f****n mouth!

I know many poor Filipino immigrants and SE Asian and even “Nort-East” Asians who are living in the margins. Their children will never recieve special scholarships or grants, yet the children of other people of color perhaps in a situation not even 1/10th that degree would recieve close to a full sponorship from various private and public funds.

Not only in terms of direct economics, but there have been at least 2 studies in the journal of labor economics that have pointed out that Asian Americans do make more money then whites,y et when corrected for several factors (including hours worked), that it was foudn that the suppose positive disparity became a negative one.

Also the fact that Asian Americans are fair game for ethnic slander and ridicule which affects the communities sense of self and security but also indivduals.

But these issues will not be helped by sucking cracker dick like what “John Smith” would do (if he is indeed Asian American), but by supporting the increase of people of color not only demographically but polticially in the United States. The fact is, the preponderant number of institional bias, entertaintment/media bias and social racism against Asian Americans in the US is perpetuated by Whites.

But then again, I shouldn’t expect someone who thinks that the extermination/enslavement of 15% of the global population from 1600s - 1800s “=” or “

You are full of s***. Give me an exact article with teh methodlogy that states that IQ is defintily a measure that means anything.

Have you ever heard of mutli-variate regressions? Your causal link between “IQ” and “National wealth” is humerous and it’s the kind of freshmen (and in your case intellecutally inferior and specious claims) that allows me to laugh at your very existence.

With respect to comparing China and Europe. This is the most hilarious of all your positions. Europeans extermianted 10% of the world’s population by destroying the North American peoples. They enslaved (or killed durring the attempt to enslave) close to 5 - 6% of the worlds population durring the whole of the Atlantic slave trade.

Ontop of which, there are numerous other grievances which are far from trivial that would add to their crime.

The Europeans have never paid for these evils, and they will get theirs eventually; that I am sure.

You are a Sellout trash to the fullest and/or a WN troll. How youc ompare the DIRECT AND FANTASTICALLY HUGE CRIMES commited by the European peoples to Chinese having shady buisness deals in Dafur is an amazement and it is futher evidnece of your lack of crtiical thinking abiltiies (as if we needed yet more signals of that fact).

Further, you seem to continually ignore the situation in teh Congo, where several millino actually HAVE died and yet no one is debasing those actions to the same degree… why is that?

Oh that’s right, Cause John Smith is a cracker c*ck-sucking b*tch. Get a clue you stupid loser and take your 19th century backwards European idiocy elsewhere.

Only through working harder to overcome White privilege and minority privilege via affirmative action in the economic sector.

However, Asians face significant discrimination in achieving our full humanity - and success in any sectors related to that including entertainment and relationships.

And is life all about money? No. Relationships and sex are, in fact, our prime evolutionary directives. So, if we fail at those, we fail at LIFE.

Fortunately, Asians are successful in the US and don’t rely on quotas or affirmative action to be in influential positions in government, business, science, and the arts.

Look at the global political situation and compare East Asia, Latin America, and Africa. Which areas of the world are in need of excuses, and which are doing fine without them?

However, got to love the personal attacks that have done absolutely nothing to refute either

a) The statistically robust estimates from using IQ in determining national wealth

b) The use of Chinese weapons in Darfur and the blocking of UN efforts to halt the genocide by Chinese representatives at the Security Council.

The thing is, is that our world now operates on a higher moral level than it did 300 years ago. Comparing Chinese support for genocide today against European colonialism 300 years ago is an unfair analogy. Sure, Europeans did terrible things. The question is: are they doing terrible things now? Has the US run over any protesters recently with tanks?

On another note, I’d commented here the other day, but my comment is now missing. I doubt it was censored, since my comment was rather innocuous. hmmm…

“John Smith” who is either the worst sellout Asian Indian i’ve ever met, and there are some very bad ones out there, or a WN maggot, is trying to convince anyone that IQ is a relevent measure in the most formal defintion of the term and is “rational,” in the Economic use of that term, must either be very ignorant of basic statistics or he is just very dumb.

I propose both. “John Smith” can have any oppurtunity he wants to point out any current literature in biology on this subject, I can assure you there exist no reputable blue-ribbon journals in the quantiaive methdos or genetics/modern evolution or bio-statsitics that has led to any positive conclusion as the othe “IQ” question.

I will not waste any more time talking about this unless i’m given a challenge, otherwise, mocking the lack of intellect of “John Smith” would just be vain and superficial affair.

Apropro to China, no one can compare anything the Chinese have done either in modern times or in ancient, to the whole of European history in the last 400 years. Surely, if there is a God and the god is just and takes and eye for an eye, tehre would not be enough white eyes in the whole world to strike a balance in the universal sheet of justice for all the murders, genocide, and destruction reeped by those most evil men that live in the European “continent” and their degenerate progeny spread across the other parts of the world.

I have not once heard “John Smith” berate European peoples or European powers in his selective accounts of history.

Indeed, I can imagine “John Smith” now, the cracker lap dog, wagging his tail at delight to please his masters lol. Such a sad state of affairs Asian America is in,t hat trash like these have not met their idiocy with some led.

I noticed he has also ignored the Congo situation. A conflict which has ACTUALLY killed several milion people, yet the dictator is allowed to persist. Oh, wait, that’s right, European peoples stand to profit from that event… and stand to loose in the event of the negative outcome occuring. Oh well, “White is right” for “John Smith,” so of course he should dispose of that situation, it is an inconvenience to his warped world-view (or his WN world-view).

“John Smith” is a joke, and this website is a joke for not bannig his worthless a** from commenting. I could very easily create a WN flame-bot and the effect of it’s presesnce would be just-the same

I believe I can summarize the thoughts thus far as:

a) no one is condoning the fact that China is not doing all they can to prevent the atrocities that are happening in Sudan.

b) the ultimate blame lies with Sudan itself.

c) no one is worshiping the Chinese government but we all seem to find it uncanny how the European based nations are not held accountable to the same degree for their actions as China (or other East Asian nations) is.

so can we all agree to put this puppy to bed now?

And don’t even dare to compare the US war in Iraq with this. American soldiers (except for rare outliers) have NEVER pursued a policy of systematically targeting civilians.

And no one is planning to mention China’s support of the oppressive Burmese regime that mowed down Buddhist monks.

Look, I respect Chinese civilization. They have done many great things. It’s just that the current government is an oppressive dictatorship and their only legitimacy comes from promoting growth. So, they have to get resources any way possible in order to stay in power, including supporting terrible regimes. And the Western nations have to be ready to counter their support of shady regimes. God help us in 10 years when China’s economy exceeds the US and EU.

Why have you never met me? Because talking about this stuff will get you a hate crime violation.

Anyway, obviously you never bothered to read ANY of the scientific literature on race and intelligence. I’ll even be the first to admit that India’s average IQ is 85, but it doesn’t mean that there can’t be any smart people from there.

Just because I don’t buy into China worship doesn’t make me a neo conservative white stooge.

Despite this, Americans reluctant to address the realities of continuing racism and white privilege have consistently portrayed Asian Americans as a “model minority” who have uniformly succeeded by merit.

Every time I hear the phrase white privilege I know that it is used as an excuse for the speaker’s failure to achieve.

I will stick with the Chinese people I know who are achievers, both here and in China.

Now lower pay for the same work is based in part on personal observation having worked as a consultant in at least two dozen different companies and knowing “who makes what”. And while that information is no more conclusive than the Jerry Yang statement, I believe that modelminority.com referenced a study done a number of years ago on the subject. You can email them and I’ll bet they have the information handy and can forward it to you.

All that aside I think the focus of the article is violence against Asians, specifically Chinese in Anglo countries and gripes should be directed to these offenders (see Williams’ Chinese delivery bludgeonings/killings roster)

The key is that for the SAME JOB, Asians tend to be paid less

I think you need to cite some generally accepted census data here. The only way I can think of for Asians to have higher average salaries overall, yet to always be paid less for doing the same job is for there to be a greatly restricted variance in their salaries and for the median asian income to be higher than the median white income. However, it is clear by simply looking at restaurants in places like Chinatown in SF there are some people there with low incomes.

Secondly, let’s be clear about who we are talking about. It is quite understandable that recent immigrants whose English skills are not as good as ABCs might not earn as much as whites in the same jobs.

Thirdly, are you lumping other Asians in here with Chinese, Japanese and Koreans, like, say Filipinos? The returns to IQ are well demonstrated and CJK IQs tend to average a few points higher than white IQs and definitely higher that non-Chinese Filipinos.

The lack of management positions is another subject altogether

Last I looked, Jerry Yang and a bunch of other Chinese CEOs and etc of firms in Silicon Valley were in management.

Please cite some reliable data.

I would wish that the latter is true, but unfortunatly, I have seen too many Asian sellouts, and especially Asian Indian sellouts to believe the kind of idiocy that he represents is pure fancy.

Speaking of human-rights, which is worst, not abidding by some western-backed worthless abstractions on ink (the so-called “human rights”) or being incompetent in taking care of your people? I would say the later, and if we say the later is worst, then it would India, not China that has the most grevious betrayls of actaul “human rights.”

Although id on’t believe we should “forgive” the Chinese goverment for anything, we should certainly point out the hypocricy that these European peoples perpetrate.

After-all thse same European peoples are the ones who wiped out the whole of an entire continent of People (north America) decimated another (Central/South America), and enslaved yet another (Africa), ontop of all that, they imposed draconion imperialism on the rest of the WOrld (Arabia and Asia).

These Europeans, have no room to talk, and they ought to be spat on whenever they dare mention “morals” to any people of color.

Just stopping in to say hi to y’all as a new member.

Aaron

And, pray tell me, what respect does a regime deserve that is actually supporting the Sudanese government’s genocide that has killed over 200,000 people already? To the dictatorial Chinese government, they know that only more economic development will give them legitimacy, so they pursue resources to the detriment of the world’s oppressed.

Actually, John, who gives a shit about what happens in Darfur? It’s just a trendy way to beat people about the head for not doing things about something they have little hope to control anyway. And, after all, it’s just another example of black-on-black violence.

However, I think that George Lou’s analysis is way off base. Spielberg is simply playing the white elite status game and the Chinese would be wise to ignore him.

Also, I do think that George has a case of the Bitter Asian Male syndrome. Get over the fact that a percentage of Chinese females find us 鬼老 worth jumping into bed with.

Realize that China is and has done some terrible things, and we will continue to call them out on it. Calling us racist is an absurd denial of what is going on in the world.

And walking around NYC yesterday, I saw 5 WM/AF couples and 2 AF/AM couples. Whether the white guys dislike Asian culture, I don’t know. I think many of them are able to attract Asian girls, and it’s really that simple.

The mere fact that China hires a Hollywood Jew to run their show is glaring evidence of this.

I mean, this tool painted the Japanese occupation as protectors of order in Shanghai in Empire of the Sun!

“13-year-old Christian Bale, whose performance foreshadows his later development into a first-rate actor) lives in a late-stage colonial paradise, a section of Shanghai remade to look like a lost English city, and seemingly untouched by the Japanese occupation. Bale devotes far more attention to model airplanes than to the prejudices and petty cruelties inherent in his position, until his world comes to a sudden end with the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, as Japan’s protection of Shanghai’s European residents gives way to a new policy of looting and imprisonment.”

Bullies only respect you when you stand up to them. Anglos are the exact same way. Bruce Lee pwned every damn Anglo he ever met, and now they still can’t stop worshipping his yellow ass. Anglos are pack animals. They bow down to the dominant alpha. Take a note from Blacks who piss on Whites all the time…yet are the most highly-respected by them today.

The key is that for the SAME JOB, Asians tend to be paid less

The lack of management positions is another subject altogether

Isn’t Darfur in Africa?

And isn’t the conflict between local warring groups?

Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t believe I’ve heard reports of China invading Darfur in an attempt to claim territory (unlike … ).

So why exactly is the London based (chuckle) Amnesty International implying China has responsibility for this situation?

AT WORST, if China is assisting one side against the other in a local conflict, is that not what the Anglo’s (aka WASPs) have done repeatedly throughout history and continue to do so today?

But the real ? is, why is Spielberg being kept on the payroll? Shame on him for shitting where he eats or shame on China for letting him get away with it?

Thoughts?

-muthafugga

There are alot of cases where AM’s and AF’s are killed by whites too, you know.

However I can relate to your feelings of anger from the murder of Vu Nguyen. Very understandable. That was not right at all, and the perpetrators should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I agree.

My heart goes out to his family.

P.S And Im the Jealous type too.

Although the “London based” Amnesty Intn’l doesn’t, I would put China’s “terrible” human rights record against the U.S.’s anytime.

Would you like to give specifics as to how the US human rights record is so bad and that of China so good?

As an immigrant to the US myself I think that the US has a very good human rights record but does have some problems (and a large group of people committed to trying to extract an easy life from whites by using guilt about some events in the past).

As far as China goes, it is pretty clear to me that there have been problems in the past but that things are better there now, and that having to manage over 1.3Bn people is sure to mean that problems will occur.

I must say, however, that I prefer Chinese people who don’t whine. 我的外母 never whined … neither did the parents of the Chinese kid I grew up with as a kid, and after playing 麻将 with him for so long when I was an adult, although he told lots of 鹹濕 jokes, he is clearly an interesting person who I am privileged to have known.

All the Chinese I have worked with in Silicon Valley are getting standard salaries, and don’t East-Asian American Males have the highest average incomes in the US?

The Australian version of anti Chinese rioting would be the Lambing Flat Riots.

Hmmm, you learn something every day. I had never heard of that incident.

However, it is easy to tell those of Asian Descent who were born here (or came here before about the age of 8-10) vs those who came here as adults or late teens. You just have to listen to them. Perhaps this is because I have managed to learn some Cantonese and Mandarin. I dunno.

Not really a big deal …

So much for “boy privilege” in Asia…

OTOH, maybe China should be spanking the US with that hand instead of feeding it. But, we all know that will never happen…

I have never met another race so ashamed of itself and aceepting wholescale denigration from others without uttering a single word back. The amount of bullying and slander Chinese passively take from Anglos simply knows no bounds.

Let’s face it, you all look alike…

I’m not suprised at all. Anglo -American/British politicians are infamous for this kind of hideous political game.

No. Especially now with the constant terrorist threat now plaguing this country since 9/11, its all about security issues and control.

That’s why.

There are factors that you are not seeing, (or probably care about) as to why things in the APA movement is not working with such fire as with the Afro-American struggle that sparked the Civil Rights movement in the 60’s.

This is some great stuff!!!

These comebacks will get these retards knocked out of their sockets.

I thought John Smith was asking ME that question. Never mind.

“I think another FOC contributor just posted a dirty dime of suggested responses . . . .

Marky

It seems that the searchbots on this site automatically deletes any comments that includes addresses of other internet sites. Thats probably why your comment didnt go through if you was trying to provide the info on that FOC contributor.

Its unfortunate that things like that happens. Life is hard, not easy at all.

I would call the situation as like being between a rock and a hard place. . . . .

John Smith

No. I dont speak any Indian dialect. It would be a useful language to learn however . . . .

Pusi Lips

I understand that ‘Latino’ is a broad term. But Hapas and Blasians are always automatically thrown into the ‘Latino’ category when their true ethnicity cannot be figured out.

Dont take what I say personally. Your experience is different from those who are American born, English speaking, of mixed race descent. (I’m assuming you are Hispanic)

This is the underlying root problem behind apathetic Asian support.

Speaking for myself I find that incredibly annoying.

Why are’nt any of the persons here commenting on this article posted by Telly Wong ,so far, not commending the honorable efforts of many Blacks, Indians and Asians who are contributing greatly to this society, but dwell on the negative instead?

Not all Afro-Americans are criminals. There are many blacks that are contributing alot towards this nation. Our next president for that matter may be a mullato and he shows potential as a man capable of leading a nation. (However, politicians are politicians….)

Not all Asian females are whitewashed sellout whores. Many of the Asian females here in the US are generally very good people and are trying hard to remain in touch with their Asian heritage. The majority os Asian females in this country are not in tune with APA issues, true that, but there are still many AF’s, strong in character, who keep it real.

And most importantly, not all AM’s are eunichs. There are many AM’s here that are much more man the average joe. (or many of the apologist people posting on this site, many of the trolls here NOT being Asian at all to begin with anyway.)

Many AM’s in this country are leading very productive social lives and are doing very well in interracting with the opposite sex.

I know many Asian males who are dating or are married to gorgeous women who are white, black, Indian and Latino. I give these AM’s props. They are certainly not tolerating and not allowing themselves to be influenced by the average stereotypical way of thinking towards Asian males as weak. It is reflected by the fact that they voice out with conviction on sites such as this, modelminority.com and the like, and by the way that they live their lives . Totally contrary to the image the media protrays them to be.

And John Smith, not all Indians are cab drivers and working at newspaper stands smelling funky with terriblly inaudible accents. This is reflected off the bat by your comments on this site.

I CANNOT possiblly agree with your views on matters in the slightest sense, but I cannot deny the fact that you , at least, carry yourself as a man with intelligence in some ways . . . . . .

Lets all think of things wiht optimism and *REALISM*, alright guys?

*Third time posting same message from when original post was deleted.

You guys think its Anita Chang again? That’s funny. Maybe it is Anita Chang again with her antics. . . . . .

*second attempt to post since time when original post was deleted.

-crazy MM-er

A similar thing happenned in the US, to a Civil rights activist named Kip Fubeck, who is a Hapa. When he started his work against the racism placed on AM’s and AF’s, he recieved many death threats by mail.
And of course we all know what really was the cause for black activist groups such as the Black Panthers and individuals such as Malcom X. All as the result of conspiracy.

-John Smith

The fact is that no country in the world will ever suceed in governing over the people with true justice. That has been shown by the turbulent, violent history over the centuries. All these governments failed at sucessfully ruling over the people in the lands it governs over.

. . . .in particular, the US. All the innocent suvillians that died because of US/British imperialism , starting from India, to Korea and the worst of all genocides by the US in Japan - - - - the two atomic bombs droped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. . . . all by the US of A.

And not to mention the cruel inhumane treatment of African slaves during the early days of the US up until the civil war.

…and the aparthied against Blacks and even Japanese and Koreans (internment camps set up to imprison Japanese after the pearl harbor incident….

Yes there is many injustices being commited in China as a communist police state. No one is denying that.

But you think the US is doing any better? they cater only to the small majority in this country and scorn at the 1st and second generation immigrants, the blacks and the Native Americans they STOLE their land from.

Sorry, John Smith. Nobody sees your point. We’re all normal and sane in mind with goodness of heart and character here..

-digbick.

I dont agree.

Blacks are always negatively protrayed in the Anglo media, especially with the weakening legal status of affirmative action in the United States thanks to the special interest groups bent on halting the efforts of ghroups fighting for equal rights in this country.

There has also been a sharp increase in racial profiling throughout the US in recent years as we all know.

The media is a tool to opress and brainwash the people. Dont let the lies they express fool you.

Who would have thought that the Filipino penchant for non-originality would ever amount to anything? Congrats, Pineda. You’ve inspired a lot of us Filipinos to continue our copycatting ways.

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Look, there are alot of Indians working in delis. If people make comments about that, I’m not going to freak out. Because most people ALSO know that there are a ton of Indian doctors, and that the CEO of Citigroup is now an Indian.
So, I am willing to acknowledge all stereotypes that are out there about Indians, acknowledge their validity. And yeah, Indians are pretty dirty too. Am I freaking out? No. I don’t blame people for forming opinions based on experience.

“If the stereotypical portrayals in the media is stopped, then yes, people will not act they way they do.”

I think this statement of yours illustrates the difference between us. I think that stereotypes are accurate long before they are portrayed in the media.

Do you really honestly think that I am attracted to Asian women because I’m brainwashed by the media? No, it’s because they are more feminine than black or white women.

That I’m brainwashed because I’m afraid to go into black neighborhoods at night? No. It’s because I enjoy being alive.

The “Anglo” media (which is dominated by Jews and Liberals and is loved throughout the world) is NOT responsible for this. These stereotypes HOLD TRUE IN ANY COUNTRY YOU GO TO.
Black countries have more crime and violence.
Many Asian countries often cater to western male sex tourists.

How am I ignorant? I’ve traveled all around the world. Seeing racism in EVERY country I’ve been to has just demolished the idea that we can live Kum Baia. Please read Putnam’s research. He’s well respected.

Sue the heck out the production companies with multiple civil suits on counts of discrimination and voice out against it’s producers and actors involved and ruin their reputations with hard truth and cold facts.

I think that could be a possible third option. . . . .

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They really dont care about APA or Afro-American issues at all. They are all about staying mainstream and fooling the masses.

At least Oprah is not as insensitive as to certain issues rocking this country as the mainstream masses of phonies in the media who endorse lies.

We all know that the media is controlled by certain agencies, even in so called democratic lands.

Such was the case in the former Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Anyone who dared to oppose the government controlled media were sent to prison on counts of treason and sedition or murdered.

These governments used the media as propaganda tools of control. Anyone who opposed were subject to long prison terms or murdered. All the materials were carefully constructed lies used to fool and brainwash the people with lies.

This article lacks credibility as to its sources. I think this is obviously deliberate and has everything to do with the deteriorating relations the US has with China.

You guys think its Anita Chang again? That’s funny. Maybe it is Anita Chang again with her antics. . . . . .

I really don’t understand how the Eurasian girl can have the nerve to be involved in that picture. Why? Because the incident they are poking fun at involves an KOREAN-AMERICAN MALE?

It’s bad enough that they think its funny that innocent people were brutally murdered by a man who could’nt be helped in time with his serious psychological problems afflicting him day and night to the point of totally going off the beam.

That’s one AF right there, in that pic, with no sense of moral values. Pathetic.

I dont find this funny in any sense of the word. I have to agree with Randy. This is not a joke.

Why are’nt any of the persons here commenting on this article posted by Telly Wong ,so far, not commending the honorable efforts of many Blacks, Indians and Asians who are contributing greatly to this society, but dwell on the negative instead?

Not all Afro-Americans are criminals. There are many blacks that are contributing alot towards this nation. Our next president for that matter may be a mullato and he shows potential as a man capable of leading a nation. (However, politicians are politicians….)

Not all Asian females are whitewashed sellout whores. Many of the Asian females here in the US are generally very good people and are trying hard to remain in touch with their Asian heritage. The majority os Asian females in this country are not in tune with APA issues, true that, but there are still many AF’s, strong in character, who keep it real.

And most importantly, not all AM’s are eunichs. There are many AM’s here that are much more man the average joe. (or many of the apologist people posting on this site, many of the trolls here NOT being Asian at all to begin with anyway.)

Many AM’s in this country are leading very productive social lives and are doing very well in interracting with the opposite sex.

I know many Asian males who are dating or are married to gorgeous women who are white, black, Indian and Latino. I give these AM’s props. They are certainly not tolerating and not allowing themselves to be influenced by the average stereotypical way of thinking towards Asian males as weak. It is reflected by the fact that they voice out with conviction on sites such as this, modelminority.com and the like, and by the way that they live their lives . Totally contrary to the image the media protrays them to be.

And John Smith, not all Indians are cab drivers and working at newspaper stands smelling funky with terriblly inaudible accents. This is reflected off the bat by your comments on this site.

I CANNOT possiblly agree with your views on matters in the slightest sense, but I cannot deny the fact that you , at least, carry yourself as a man with intelligence in some ways . . . . . .

Lets all think of things wiht optimism and *REALISM*, alright guys?

One stereotype with Indians portrayed in the media is this—they all work in 7-Elevens and porno shops, Gas stations and magazine shops and cab drivers with terrible accents. (Think of the Simpsons for example)

Are you going to support that lie then, John Smith?

Or are you going to be rightly offended by that stereotypical thought, as the intelligent Indian Amerivcan that you are, and dismiss that from your mind as utter crap.

And even as that may be true (hypothetically saying) are you going to just sit back and let the Anglo media continue to protray that stereotypical image?

Or will you want to see something done about it being insulted by that stereotypical image?

Think about it.

I wish these persons , no disrespect, would start thinking out of the box.

Yes it is true that we see what we see with the ethnic groups. But that is just an effect of what is the cause of the problem to begin with - flaws within the sociological/ecomnomic structure set up in this country.

Yes, again, there is a high percentage of AF’s who are causing a interracial dating disparity problem among the Asian Americal population.

Yes, there is a high percentage of Afro-American criminals committing crimes (Supposedly. I dont necessarily trust the sources of these statistics.)

But lets not forget that this, again, is just a result of problems with this society. All these things we see with Asian women, etc, is the symptom of a bigger problem. It is not just a problem in itself.

Look at the big picture, not just the minor segments of this perplexing problem.

And remember that usually, statistics are not as accurate as we may think.

No I really do not think that AF’s, AM’s or Afro-Americans are ultimately to blame for this.

If the stereotypical protrayals in the media is stopped, then yes, people will not act they way they do. The expressions in Hip Hop for example: The music glorifies violence, crime ,etc. much of the time. If this would be cleaned up, then the Black kids will not be as prone to commit ncrimes.

If the stereotypical image of Asian females as exotic sex objects quick please particularly Caucasian men while hating their Asian male counterparts were halted as a marketing strategy in advertising, and as stereotypical images in the entertainment media, then our young Asian sisters will not continue to hate their own culture and will wise up.

Much of what we see in the Asian community and Black community is as a result of learned behaviors supported by the media. the brainwashing will stop once these elements are removed. Simple as that.

I am happy to see though that we all agree on one thing, the Anglo media is not helping to stop these problems in race relations, it is making a problem that already exists even worse.

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EVERYONE, including BLACKS, are afraid of being victimized by Black criminals. And with good reason - as they are vastly overrepresented in violent crime stats.

THERFORE, why is this rational fear always used as “proof” of racism? When it is simply a logical response to the higher % of Black criminals?

Please, cut the PC BS people.

Are a lot of AFs a bunch of anti-Asian sellout ho’s? YES.

And sorry, but that is not a mere figment of the Anglo media imagination…

Therefore, telling them to stop such portrayals is avoiding the real issue of telling AFs to stop behaving that way.

So, let’s ask ourselves: what is the source of these stereotypes? Is it really evil white men in marketing?

No, these are stereotypes based on the actions and cultures and (possibly) genetics of LARGE groups of people.

Or are you more interested in fighting hard with the rest of the true believers to stop the sources of these stereotypes put on persons of color today, particularly on AM’s and AF’s causing divisions between the sexes in the Asian American population?

I’m looking for a straight answer.

I really hope your intent is to not support the instigators harboring resentment against people of color and the stereotypical half truths along with it..

If you are one concerned about these issues and want to to something about it, to the betterment of the Asian community, then I give you props.

Have to admit - there is quite a lot of truth to these in the Anglosphere, no?

Many people of color are conspired against and has bee treated harshly with the upmost of cruelty, also the Chinese and Japanese to the extent for centuries in this country. So yes, perhaps more people end up in utter poverty and end up committing crimes as a result of economic hardships and psychological torment placed upon them.

There are many special interest groups who has great influence over the many institutions and agencies in the US, as well as inflence over the press and entertainment world.

You speak only in half truths. Why is that? You state these facts almost with a sense of glee and twisted exitement. It seems to me you are actually happy with the racism that is happening in the US/UK/India, whatever.

Why, John Smith? Why is it you keep on with your overtly subtle racist comments on this site? Do you think any of us Asian Americans are amused by your viewpoints?

FYI, many innocent girls are lured into the UK/US sex trade today. Most by those who are indeed Anglo-American or Anglo-British Caucasian men. Maybe you should look into that. Maybe that will help you to wake up and realize who your real oppressors are. Or are you going to conjure up more excuses excuses for these animals who are abusing our South Asian and Pacific Asian sisters all over the world, luring them by force into the sex trade and pornography industry.

Why dont you post subjects like these in your posts instead of putting down Asians, Mexicans, and Afro-Americans, who you know yourself in your own heart are acting the way they are acting because they are oppressed in this country, economically, socially and psychologically.

You are in denial. No, why dont get with the program and get with reality. Your warped perception on matters is not certainly helping anyone on this website, that’s for sure.

You are just the ever more revealing yourself to be the true bigot that you are. Keep on doing just that. You are digging your own hole to fall in and will keep on going until you are covered up in it with your half truths and prejudiced statements.

Black men have a higher per capita rape and crime rate than any other ethnic group.

Hispanic immigrants are lowering the wages for the few unskilled jobs remaining in our economy, and there are 12 million illegal immigrants in our country. To say that many of the non-english speaking Mexicans we meet throughout the year are illegal is perfectly justified.

Asian men, generally, occupy a lower status on the social scale and are hence not as desired.

While the Asian woman puts out a more feminine vibe than her feminist white or black counterparts, and hence, is more desired.

Don’t stick your head in the sand. If we want real racial reconciliation in this country, we have to confront the fact that stereotypes are incredibly informative about large groups of people. Stereotypes form from experience, not some evil group of white males colluding in the boardroom trying to make a buck by pushing generalizations.

And you think race relations are bad in the US? Have you ever left this country? In Europe, Africa, Southeast Asia, and Latin America, it resembles a caste system more than the racial tensions we have here.

Alot of this is because of racist stereotypes. Black males viewed as rapists and criminals. Latinos as low life illegal immigrants destroying our economy. Asian men as apologist eunichs, Asian women as white washed sluts and exotic sex objects, etc. All of this of course instigated by the American media. All of this needs to go.

If more people whould voice out against what the media is doing to fuel this sick twisted, stereotypical thinking, then we will see marked improvement involving racial harmony in this country.

I agree with Telly Wong. He brought out some powerful points that are well taken by many concerned with the developments taking place within the APA movement.

I read your entries in your blog and I have to say I totally disagree with many of your postings. Im sure many who regularly post on this site harbor similar feelings.

It would seem that you really have issues with persons of color. Its obvious with all the true believers of the APA cause who regularly comment on this site and others, which includes supporters who are of Afro American , South Asian, or mixed race descent, Hapas and Blasians, as well as Asian American men and women who are not blind to the racist mechanisms that oppress people in this country.

Perhaps you shoud reconsider what you are really saying by your comments. You are certainly not helping matters by your expressions of backwards thinking in race relations and politics. You make me wonder sometimes. . . . . . . . .

Read the FBI crime stats. This is not racism, it’s reality.

Are you kidding me? Selfish gene theory predicts that racial groups are always going to be suspicious of one another, especially racial groups (african americans, hispanics) that have a history of higher per-capita crime rates than the majority population.

Putnam’s research explains your findings.

I’m surprised that fallout central continues to be surprised when confronted by the news that all races can’t live happily ever after as long as we get rid of white oppression.

nothing but BS apologists that deletes anything not in line with their own propaganda!

you’re no better than anita chang yourselves!

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a) Locate all copies of these movies in the stores and destroy/steal them

and/or

b) Pirate the hell out of them, and donate the money to Asian charities

It’s the only way.

Stupid Cracker still touting pseudo-science IQ BS. Hilarious.

The ONUS of the blame should be on the AFRICANS and MUSLIMS themselves.

Of course, the Anglo press will never directly lay blame on BLACKS. NEVER. EVER.

He does have a point. Although why not dress up dead Iraqis too then?

Lol, wow, in between Hollywood gossip and yo-yo dieting…that’s nice to know!

And nice way to bribe voters with a free car!

In fact, I notice that portrayals of Asians in movies with a heavy black audience tend to be more denigrating.

they reify and project their own imperialist and murderous tendencies unto others.

China has not had a history of invasions and genocide on par with “the occident” in many, many years. and yet the yellow peril exists because crakkkers like to project their own racist and violent tendencies unto others as justification for their own inhuman behaviors!

I would respond quite simply with facts like “The United States supported and gave weapons to Osama bin Laden and Sadam Hussein… ” oh wait maybe I shouldn’t have said… the CIA is already at my door getting ready to waterboard me and then destroy the tapes of my interrogations…

But that is beside the point… the fact of the matter is that xenophobic statements distributed in the mass media such as Mr. Bykofsky’s in the Philly Daily news only go as far as fueling anti-Asian / anti- AsianAmerican hysteria… which as we all know is the first step towards causing increased bias incidents, hate crimes, and violence.

Dirty laundry? Sure China has social and policy issues that need to be fixed. So does every other country… including the United States! Do articles like Mr. Bykofsky’s do anything to help bring about any positive change?

The answer is a resonding NO!!

China supports Zimbabwe and Angola and Burma.

China is going to probably be more powerful than the US in the coming decades. China’s energy demands are going to come into conflict with US foreign policy objectives.

Yellow peril? I’m just stating what everyone knows. That the US better get its act together and import more high IQ immigrants if it wants to compete with China. Otherwise, I honestly think a world dominated by China will be worse off. Luckily they are not as PC in China.

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have you been to Shanghai and seen the numbers of YT with Chinese women? read up on “Chinabounder” and the Chinese sociology professor who spoke out against the YT; and how the professor was shot down by the Chinese government.

but i suppose this post will get deleted because to falloucentral, China can do no wrong.

Lol, just a small “coinkydink,” I’m sure… ;(

yeah, keep on being apologist hop sings!

why do the racist apologists say that anita chang is asian?

because of racial stereotypes about names? can’t anita chang be a white ashkenazi jew adopted by Chinese-Americans?

and if the racists support this fictitious CIA plant “anita chang” then they must also support the international news about gitmo and abu gharib and all the human rights violations the US has conducted!

Also, the Mexican economy will always be undeveloped, and there will always be a desire for them to immigrate to prosperous US.

So, why shouldn’t we? All sell-out traitors like Anita Chang should be logged and updated regularly for ACCOUNTABILITY

It needs to be compiled and easily-available…or these hors will never change.

Woops sorry, I’m sure this post will get deleted for truth.

This type of talk is not unusual today with all the problems the US is having, with a public image that is going down the shit hole, with wars and a economy thats at the edge of recessions. But im never going to say that America is as bad as China in human rights, because its just not true. America is far from perfect, but to compare it to China’s record is overly irresponsible and just another example of trying shift blame by accusing the accuser of the same thing without addressing the issue. Id just wish that people wouldn’t get so obnoxiously defensive when people try to address the issue of China’s human rights violations (with good intentions). It seems that its like our manlyhood is threatened when the subject is brought up and we loose all reasoning when dealing with the subject. I don’t want Asian Americans to be irrational and angry about things that could otherwise be addressed with some levelheadedness (I hope thats a word).

BTW. “China is communist politically, not economically” doesn’t really makes sense because the idea is politics and the economy are one in the same under communist ideology. But somehow China has become massive contradiction.

As I said earlier, I am not writer or journalist, I am just ordinary Chinese guy, but I do know being journalist or writer, should be objective and fare and balanced, respect the fact…a country just like a person, nobody is perfect! Same goes a country, no country is perfect, if you are journalist and let’s say you write 10 articles about US cities, everything you wrote is about ONE single city and are negative, something is wrong with you, either you are not suit for being journalist or something went wrong when during your childhood, maybe your parents fault , because any human being knows ANY City on this planet has good sides and bad sides, just like there are always evil person in any city and any country, I don’t have to give you any more examples …

So I want to ask Anita Chang: is there any thing good about China?

That‘s very pathetic to just make a living to attack your own kind,
What she wrote is very misleading to the public and untrue. I guess she was adopted and was raised by White, and brain washed, that’s why I said earlier something was wrong during her childhood.

Last thing I want to say, American main stream media really fucked up nowadays, can’t tell they are journalist or talk show host any more, why? Because 95% they said on TV regarding China are NOT true, and I was born and raised in China, been to many places in China, so I know what’s like

“communist” is nothing more than a buzzword/charged word used to designate the “good” guys (Americans) from the “bad” guys (Chinese)

Although the “London based” Amnesty Intn’l doesn’t, I would put China’s “terrible” human rights record against the U.S.’s anytime.

Britney can’t even take care of herself, much less her own kids, much less anyone else’s.

God, get a cactus that doesn’t need much watering to fill your void (between your ears?), you dum skank. You are NOT fit to raise ANYTHING!

FAW? WTF? Who wants to say, “Hey, I’m driving a FAW!”

I guess it’s better than “Cherry” though…

i think i’ll just stick to phil yu.

1. You get people to come on your show to make subtle or overtly disparaging comments about white guys and Asian American Females to convey to listeners the feeling that Asian Men are underappreciated.
( Try not to overdue this, it seems petty and pathetic sometimes, but can be enlighten and educational when done right)

2. You use China as an entity that represents Asians Americans and Chinese Nationals. If China does anything it reflects us.( I remember somewhere in the previous pod show that yall didn’t like being mistaken or lumped with the Chinese Nationals because you wanted to be seen as Americans, but then you seem to blur this line when China does something provocative and shows up the US) China is a touchy country to address when it comes to Asian Americans. China is a communist country with a terrible human rights record and Asians Americans are Americans First…………………. aren’t we??? Should we support China because people there look like us?

to be continued

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but what is up with quotes like these:

“But before the next APA awards event honoring any two-bit celebrity with a half-Asian grandmother and hosted by an out-of-work actor who guest-starred on some TV show that was canceled 20 years ago, here’s a brief overview of a real Asian American artist, entertainer and hero: ”

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