05.22.07
Editorial: Coverage of Queens hate-crime sentencing
Victims John Lu and Reynold Liang at a news conference shortly after the attack
The trial of the second defendant in a Queens, N.Y., bias attack has come to a close, but news outlets are showing some bias of their own in their reports on the sentencing.
Paul Heavey, 21, got off with five years of probation and 75 hours of community service for the attack in the Douglaston neighborhood last August. He and 19-year-old Kevin Brown rammed a car carrying four Chinese American teens and then beat two of the occupants when they got out to check the damage, at one point using a metal wheel lock that victim Reynold Liang had taken up in self-defense. All throughout, the two shouted racial slurs like “stupid gook” and statements like “get out of our neighborhood.” (In March, Brown was sentenced to three and a half years in prison for his role.)
As part of his sentence, Heavey was required to make an apology, which we would guess is a standard, token gesture for a trial like this. But an overwhelming number of news sources are giving undue weight to Heavey’s words, as you can see in these headlines by New York-area outlets:
“Student apologizes for racial attack”: Newsday
“Student Offers Apology For Queens Hate Crime On Asians”: WNBC
“Little Neck man apologizes for Doug hate attack”: Times Ledger
These headlines gloss over the lightness of the sentence and seem to imply that Heavey exonerated himself with his apology, as if that’s all the victims could have hoped for or deserved. And they overlook that the apology was mandatory. Seriously, how sincere could the statement have been, under the circumstances? At the very least, it wasn’t “offered,” as WNBC put it.
Also, check out this header that a few outlets, including the globally distributed International Herald Tribune, are carrying:
“College student offers apology for hate crime on Asians”
Again with the offering. And is that his designation, “college student”? That almost makes you think Heavey was wearing a cardigan and carrying an armload of books when he decided to attack the teens.
Maybe these news outlets think rehabilitation starts with the reporting.
The New York Post, on the other hand, prefers to see Heavey’s story as it is:
Jun Zuniga said,
May 23, 2007 at 1:52 pm
Here’s what all of us should not fail to remember.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18085129&BRD=2731&PAG=461&dept_id=574902&rfi=6
“Kew Gardens Supreme Court Judge Pauline Mullings indicated that she would sentence Heavey to five years’ probation and 75 hours of community service, and require him to make a statement of apology at his May sentencing.”
The “apology” was court mandated. How much “remorse” could Mr. Heavey really have?
“Before his sentencing, Paul Heavey, 21, said in Queens Supreme Court, ‘I apologize to all the people of the Asian community.’”
If I could respond to Mr. Heavey face to face, I would tell him, “Your apology is meaningless. This Asian-American doesn’t accept your apology, and you should have served the full and commensurate penalty for the hate crime that you committed.”
“They called me a stupid gook. They said it over and over again… Definitely - no doubt about it - to me, they were racists. They did it because I was Asian.” - Reynold Liang, as quoted by The Gothamist
“The three men and another Chinese-American friend, all age 19, were riding in Liang’s car in Douglaston when Kevin Brown and Paul Heavey pulled up in a Toyota and screamed, “Get out of our neighborhood” followed by racial slurs, according to authorities. ”
“The NY Times talks to Queens residents who have differing perspectives on the likelihood of racial attacks - some are shocked while others aren’t, given the explosion of new residents and Liang gave them a good quote to end their article on: ‘I definitely don’t want this to happen to anybody else. Queens is a nice area. It’s my home.’”
Take a moment to digest that.
We as a community, have to hold our elected representatives, our courts, the media, and the perpetrators accountable for these hate crimes. We belong here, we’re Asian-AMERICANS and this is our home.
If you’re wondering why you should care, or how this applies to you. Think about the ramifications of the following statements that were made during the course of the Vincent Chin hate crime murder.
http://www.asianweek.com/061397/feature.html
“These weren’t the kind of men you send to jail… We’re talking about a man who’s held down a responsible job with the same company for seventeen or eighteen years and his son who is employed and a part time student …these men are not going to go out and harm someone else…putting them in prison wouldn’t do any good for them or for society…You don’t make the punishment fit the crime; you make the punishment fit the criminal.”-Judge Charles Kaufmann
“What kind of law is this? What kind of justice? This happened because my son is Chinese. If two Chinese killed a white person, they must go to jail, maybe for their whole lives…Something is wrong with this country.”-Lily Chin (1920-2002)
Stop thinking that someone else will do the right thing or take action if no one speaks up and takes the initiative to push for justice. We have to put pressure on decisionmakers to ensure that Asian-Americans get an equitable opportunity for justice. It has to happen if we’re not satisfied with the status quo.
FatFish said,
May 23, 2007 at 6:56 pm
These two pantsies, John Lu and Reynold Liang, should kill themselves so the Asians can improve their gene pool.
Robert said,
May 23, 2007 at 7:15 pm
FatFish:
You should kill yourself so your parents will be proud!
Jian-Feng Xu said,
May 23, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Thanks to falloutcentral folks for pointing out the biased headlines.
Wei An said,
May 24, 2007 at 2:27 am
Remember and nerver forget. Thiswill happen again and again and again. We must unite as Asian, combine our strength into one focal point. Even as individuals, we are smart, successful, hard working, high awareness, efficient, and on and on…, but imagine all of us combined, what a force we could be. A slap like this on any Asian is a slap on all of us.
Jun Zuniga said,
May 24, 2007 at 2:23 pm
http://www.qgazette.com/news/2007/0523/features/053.html
“Heavey and Kevin Brown admitted that during the predawn hours of Saturday, Aug. 12, 2006, they participated in the beating of John Lu, then 19, by punching him about the head and body, causing him to suffer lacerations requiring multiple stitches and substantial pain, including several loose teeth. They also admitted that when Reynold Liang, then 19, came to Lu’s aid, they punched and kicked Liang about the head and body. Kevin Brown further admitted that when Liang crawled back to his car and picked up an automobile steering wheel lock known as “The Club”, he grabbed it from Liang and used it to hit him numerous times about the head and body, causing him to sustain a possible fractured skull and substantial pain to his chest.”
http://www.timesledger.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18369948&BRD=2676&PAG=461&dept_id=542415&rfi=6
“Paul Heavey, 21, of Little Neck, said he was sorry for his role in the Aug. 12 attack and extended his apology to the entire Asian-American community.
‘My actions on Aug. 12 were wrong. The words that I used were wrong. For that I am truly sorry,’ Heavey said, reading a statement in Queens Criminal Court. He was sentenced to five years probation and 75 hours of community service.”
So, let me get this straight. He READ OFF A SHEET OF PAPER?!? Did his counsel prepare it for him to make sure he didn’t slip?
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-nyhate225224569may22,0,5207362.story?coll=ny-nynews-print
“Queens District Attorney Richard Brown called Heavey’s attack cowardly and said hate crimes won’t be tolerated. ”
No tolerance. I see. I guess the court mandated apology Mr. Heavey read and a few hours picking up cans by the roadside shows what “no tolerance for anti-Asian hate crimes” actually means.
So are all Asian Americans supposed to accept his court mandated manufactured statement of remorse because Paul Heavey is a “college student”, because he “apologized”? Infuriating.
“You don’t make the punishment fit the crime; you make the punishment fit the criminal.” -Judge Charles Kaufmann
“These weren’t the kind of men you send to jail…” -Judge Charles Kaufmann
Think about how the media is framing this issue. As though hate crimes committed against Asian-Americans aren’t as qualitatively serious as other hate crimes.
FatFish said,
May 24, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Robert,
You should kill your whole family tree so the Asians gene pool will improve.
Make us proud.
FatFish said,
May 24, 2007 at 6:13 pm
All is forgiven:
Victims John Lu and Reynold Liang, both 20, said they were satisfied with the sentence. “I think it’s sincere,” Liang said of Heavey’s apology. “I’m glad he realizes he did wrong.”
If the victims are cool with it, who are we to complaint?
hung lo said,
May 24, 2007 at 7:11 pm
Victims John Lu and Reynold Liang, both 20, said they were satisfied with the sentence. “I think it’s sincere,” Liang said of Heavey’s apology. “I’m glad he realizes he did wrong.”
Wow, talk about some Chinese puzzies…no wonder they’re called the sick man of Asia. Never get angry, never fight back, never stand up for themselves.
I think these hairless c**ts disgust me more than their racist attackers.
FatFish said,
May 24, 2007 at 7:13 pm
Hung Lo,
You are a breath of fresh air my brother.
hung lo said,
May 24, 2007 at 7:54 pm
FatFish - Every crisis is also an opportunity.
Imagine if these Chinese guys were good martial artists. Instead, the story would have been “Chinese Teens Beat-up Would-be Racist Attackers!”
This COULD have been a huge lesson to racists everywhere and victory for Asian men and Asian pride. Bruce Lee did this ALL THE TIME - that’s how he recruited half his students!
Instead, these c**ts get their a**es whupped, hold a press conference showing off their bruises and let their attackers off the hook with some forced apologies but no jail time.
Wow, how much more p**zylike can you GET???
What an utter DISGRACE to our RACE!
FatFish said,
May 25, 2007 at 1:04 am
Hung,
This kinds of disgraceful pantzie a**ses are too significant in numbers amongst Asian “men”. I put men in quotes because it is hard for me to call them men without flintching.
lynn said,
May 25, 2007 at 4:29 am
man i was about to ask if there was some way we could protest this. but since the victims accepted the apology, how can we say anything?
soulsnax said,
May 25, 2007 at 1:16 pm
is there not some kind of Asian or Chinese mob? if so, they should go after guys like Heavey if our justice system fails to provide justice! Where are the Triads???
FatFish said,
May 25, 2007 at 2:56 pm
soulsnax,
We don’t need an Asian mob. All we need is to grow some balls, stand up for ourselves, and standby each other.
If we do have a mob, they should first go after John Lu and Reynold Liang for being cowards in the face of the enemy.
Did you know that John Lu and Reynold Liang were beaten up by TWO White boys. Fair fight. Also, John Lu and Reynold Liang had two other “friends” with them that ran as far away as possible with their tails between their legs.
Ever wonder why Asians are getting punked by every other race of men? Why Asian “men” have the most rejection rate from women, especially from their own race, Asian women?
Because most Asian men got no balls. John Lu and Reynold Liang and “friends” are the latest example of this cowardice.
Remember Vincent Chin? He was with “friends” too when he fought against White racists who were armed with baseball bats, and died. His friends must’ve crapped their pants as they looked on/ran away. I will bet you that if his friends were non-Asian, he would’ve been fine.
On the flip side, with Vincent Chin as an example, being courageous and valiant in the face of the enemy, cost him his life. Therefore, most Chinese men prefered to live their lives as cowards; For to them, the price of masculinity is not worth it.
Bq said,
May 26, 2007 at 3:20 am
These last few comments are so vile…the reactions of the men who were attacked are not confined solely to Asian American men. I didn’t know all AA men were nonviolent (that’s what we call a stereotype, kids. And isn’t there that other stereotype, that of the abusive/”traditional”/patriarchal Asian man? Stereotypes are often contradictory…)
What about gangs? Do you support the presence of AA gangs? More importantly, perhaps, it’s unfortunate that people like you support a societal climate that produces the posturing, pettiness and destructiveness of patriarchal masculinity.
Way to excuse the perpetrators in the name of macho bs.
Bq said,
May 26, 2007 at 3:22 am
to clarify, i meant that the stereotypes about propensity towards macho behavior or violence seem contradictory.
Bq said,
May 26, 2007 at 3:27 am
FOC, good catch on the biased headlines of some of the coverage on this case.
hung lo said,
May 26, 2007 at 3:59 am
“Vincent Chin as an example, being courageous and valiant in the face of the enemy, cost him his life.”
Actually what happened was he single-handedly whupped 2 White racists in a club…
At that point he should have left the scene.
Instead, he lingered in the general area and those 2 cowards came back with baseball bats (common tactic).
It was game over after that.
In the streets, you HIT & RUN!
Vincent got it half right. The other half cost him his life unfortunately…
hung lo said,
May 26, 2007 at 4:02 am
However, VC could have easily avoided his fate had he simply got the f**k out after.
Anyhow, this is the JUNGLE Bq - not Disneyland.
EVERY ASIAN MAN should be trained to at least be able to kick the a** of aany guy slightly larger than him 1-on-1 H2H. Expecially since we make such easy targets already.
END OF STORY.
NO, life ain’t fair. Get used to it and FIGHT BACK!
aznboyz said,
May 26, 2007 at 9:01 pm
the problem is the way we r brought up. i guarantee u that if those two kids were cambodians or some other south east asians that came from a war torn country like korea or indochina, those two inbreds would be either dead, or crippled. the point is not to encourage gang violence or anger, but to earn respect. koreans and south east asiasns are straight up f**king down fo their s**t unlike chinese people. i am not disrespecting chinese culture since i am a han chinese myself.but just by the way i was raised and reading history i see why we are targeted and blamed for EVERYTHING if something happens in the world or U.S. in america, most of our parents just want us to succeed in life so when s**t hits the fan they tell us to ignore it or walk away. second, asians especially chinese are extremely un united and self hating. before all the white washed chinese OH sorry I mean “Americans” get mad at me, just hear me out for one f**king minute. some of us are FOBS or bananas. so automaticallly the “americans” think that they are superior than asians but inferior than the whites. that right there already separates the line. ever heard of divide and conquer? look at what the spanish did to phillipines and latin america and the english did to indian and china. pakistan, hong kong anyone?(oh if u don’t know history please STOP reading because u r wasting both or our time) so im sure some of u white washed asians think i am a f**king chink that understands no enklish right or so soriee right? ever taken a psychology class before. our brain develops on something called learned behavior so when some f**king hick decided to take off his pants and f**k us and nut without consequences, he automactically learns to do it again just like a monkey or dog when u give them a treat for pooping in the right place or for performing a trick. white people are down only when they are physically bigger than us or when we are out numbered. they get f**king crazy because they know the most they get is probation or 3-5 yrs plus parole for killing asians in america. Vincent Chin anyone? nine eleven beatings on middle easterns ring a bell? if we just spit on them or throw paper it is considered assault so my homeboyz got locked up for 4 yrs and 8 months on charges of assault with a deadly weapon (i guess that piece of paper must be REALLY sharp or some s**t or he must have spit out acid like some kind of lizard). but anyways i guess it is okay to beat someone with a metal wheel lock and that just isn’t lethal or deadly at all compared to paper towels. yeah f**king paper towls are f**kin G’d up and straight up dangerous in the hood now. just TRY to pull that s**t on the Jewish or African or Latin community. Say what u want about them, the Jews and the brothers and the essays will either sue your f**king balls until u declare bankruptcy or if the lawsuit doesn’t work, they will riot or put in work and green light their whole family JUST to send a message. so the next time asians bitch about things I BEG U, PLEASE EITHER SUE THEM UNTIL U R BROKE OR UNTIL THEY FILE BANKRUPTCY OR HAVE A R-E-A-S-O-N-A-B-L-E VERDICT OR OUTCOME FOR THE TRIAL.(CBS radio show hosts jv and elvis is a good example of how powerless we are because we don’t do sh**) if u don’t want s**t to drag and become big, just fu**ing sh*** or sh*** their b**ch a**es to send a f**king message. they pull less s**t like that in korean town or westminster or thai town because they know there will be CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR ACTIONS. and for all you white washed asians who think they treat u equal go to inland america or ask those republicans and find out u ignorant and uneducated asian rednecks. and for a u asian “gangsters” who acts so hard on ur own people and want to put in “work” for the hood, than do it. use those f**king straps and declare war and greenlight anyone who f**kin disrespects us and our culture and family. an eye for both their eyes and a tooth for all their dirty teeth in their mouth. if they kill one of us, we will kill ten of them to compensate for our ancestors’ weakness and lack of ability. they think they could f**k and rape all asian women and step on all asian men, show them that we r not the only ones that can bleed. if they show that they r f**king down to f**k ur mom or sister, than take him out, don’t talk s**t like all these asians who are just running their mouth “fighting” for our rights. actions speak much louder than words. it is either killed or be killed. it is either u or them, unless u want to end up like vincent chin than be my guest and call the cops and see what actions they will take against their own people. turn their house into an ocean of bl*** and show them that they ain’t s**t but a bunch of f**king rankers who rat when s**t hits the fan. in american it is the survival of the fittest and only the STRONGEST survives. it is NEVER right or wrong, but WEAK OR STRONG. they have more political power so anything that doesn’t go their way is a f**king terrorist or a “threat to national security” i bet if some f**king FBI or LAPD is reading this, it would get his d**k hard to find me and beat me even though i am just practicing my 1st Amendment, my freedom of speech that i earned by sacrificing my heritage so some white kids can throw a glass bottle at my mom and tell her to go back while she pays taxes to support his teenage mother and drug addict father, while the cops say their wasn’t enough evidence. i am just practicing my rights like my man jv and elvis so if this is hate speech than i guess so is everything else that is said by u white h**ks. if anyone wants to prove me wrong PLEASE DO SO i just can’t wait for some “intelligent” answers. oh yeah if any of u white folks think i am bullsh**ing u, try pulling this cute stunt on jews, blacks, and latinos. for asians who disagree with me, next time shit happens to u turn the other cheek to get b**ch slapped or get on ur knees and deep throat their cock and don’t complain on how u r not treated equal because u refuse to be down for ur s**t.
Lin said,
May 27, 2007 at 9:54 am
I have to agree, unless the two friends who were with them females, they should have helped. For God’s sake, it’s 4vs2. I can’t believe they let their “friends” get beat up like that. The headline should have been “Two racists boys got their a**es handed to them for assaulting Asian men”.
FatFish said,
May 27, 2007 at 4:50 pm
Hey, su*k my d**k bp.
FatFish said,
May 27, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Shout out to aznboyz, much respect. I am Han Chinese as well and I am ashamed of our cowardice culture and upbringing.
jimmy jack said,
May 28, 2007 at 1:46 pm
“drive around to different clubs , an A-R 15 wrapped in a blanket”
Lol, errrr, Cho Seung-Hui, is that you?
Jun Zuniga said,
May 29, 2007 at 7:27 pm
http://www.queenscourier.com/articles/2007/05/24/news/headline_stories/news06.txt#blogcomments
hung lo said,
May 29, 2007 at 8:40 pm
Lu suffered lacerations and lost several teeth
“We’re happy that Heavey apologized and wish him well in his future,” Lu said
Jeezus Krist, what the h3ll is wrong with these f’n Chinese cowards???!
“Thank you and may I have another,” Lu whistled thru his toothless, gaping grin - while deeply bowing in reverence to his vicious attacker.
You wanna know why Japan brutalized China so bad? Everytime Chinese cowards cowered to them, they lost even more respect.
No wonder they say Chinaman = SICK MAN OF ASIA!
My god, you know BRUCE LEE is ROLLING in his grave right now! What F’N DISGRACES to our race!!!!
Jimmy Jack said,
May 30, 2007 at 1:43 pm
Why can’t these Twinkies learn some martial arts?
F’n disgraces.
FatFish said,
May 30, 2007 at 6:29 pm
Nobody have to learn martial arts. Nobody should be blamed, in 99% of cases, for being attacked from racism.
But everyone must stand strong in defense and in holding those responsible accountable to the full force of the law.
Jimmy Jack said,
May 30, 2007 at 6:45 pm
BS, get your Chinese coward mentality out of here, FakeFish!
The law of the jungle is survival of the fittest and the weak shall perish.
Nobody respects the weak. Respect must be earned by defeating your foes. Just ask Bruce Lee.
Do not hide behind the law or your civil rights. Those only come into play after the smoke has cleared. They won’t save your a** in a streetfight. In the heat of the moment, there is only YOU and your OPPONENT.
Who will be left standing? Who will be victorious? Who will learn their lesson the hard way that Asians are NOT to be messed with???
FatFish said,
May 31, 2007 at 2:41 am
Jimmy Jack,
I hear you bro. It is just so much burden has to be bored by the Asian man:
He has to be smart.
He has to be professional.
He has to be strong.
He has to know martial arts.
All the while the Asian women trashes on the Asian men along side the White men.
So much pressure and so much division amongst the Asians and now the gender divide.
God damn it. Damn it to hell.
Ankard said,
June 11, 2007 at 1:13 am
A written apology like this should not have been accepted.
What miraculous epiphany can these attackers have so suddenly that they are sorry for thinking that these “chinese bastards are so irritating that I have an urge to *** and then do so accordingly.
Though injustice is present, commenters shouldn’t be so quick to adopt the “asians versus everybody else” mentality. With strong factioning and a thirst for justice by means of tit for tat, we can now have 2 white men beaten up with some chinese calling them “God damn white barbarians, this is what you get, eat it yeah!”
You might say, “noooo, factioning wont get to that point” and it may not. But as soon as you tie all asians in as “some gang prone community who meets all infractions with a united effort to correct such infraction. Though it may not be through violence,” such mentality will strengthen any barrier thats already existing between Asians and the would be “Enemy’s Race.” A barrier not all asians are happy to endorse.
The meek asian may be a stereotype that “power-to-the-asian-people” crew may want to stomp. But don’t do it at the cost of creating another stereotype. That, Asians are generally not level headed individuals, who will be quick to anger when dealing with non asians for the fear that they are about to be discriminated against.
These asian men should have met the situation not in the name of asians but just as any man or woman would. “Some maniac rams into you and is about to whoop you and your friends ass or kill you. You should defend you and your group at any costs to the attacker but only to him.
If that requires force to disable him, and you have the means. Then don’t hesitate.
If the man is 2x larger than you and you don’t have the means, don’t do the macho thing. Don’t act tough like you have an obligation to defend the asian manliness. You know you aren’t surviving that first hit, and you know that even as a highly persuasive, ultra reasonable, peace loving, person that you are, will not be able to talk two 250 pound lunging males into halting to think things over. First bet is to run the hell away as it would still be better than getting stomped, but do so only if everyone can run away. If thats not possible. The macho thing would be a standard brawl even against greater odds and even if you will lose. Some may say toughen up so the odds are even. But in a non barbaric society, people should not be required to physically toughen up to take a beating at any given moment. We shouldn’t have to live in fear. What does one do then, one of the four guys should have dealt a cheap easy fatal blow from behind that guarantees results. Some may say that is barbaric in itself but you may not have the liberty to just disable him and he wont listen to reason. So it is either your friend’s carcass or the aggressor’s.
This will show a strong committment to your friend’s safety, albeit using what many would suggest is a cowardly method.
Some may say, “oh it takes violent person to resort to instantly killing an attacker who may not even end up killing you and your friends,” But then you fail to understand, what if the aggressor is going after your kid, or your girlfriend. That would make the “can’t survive the first hit thing, more apparent. And so would “by macho standards”, your Duty as a man, or if you are a woman, not your duty but ask yourself, do your party want to leave alive?
All you need to do is explain that to the jury and have them believe you. Because killing aggressors too quickly in america may automatically land you as the bad guy, unfortunately. Especially if you aren’t from the stereotypical race who regularly must defend themselves against the race that is stereotypically prone to violence. Such is the reality of the matter. But this should be taken with a grain of salt as reading too much into these purported negative stereotypes would make some people highly scornful.
One would in the process develop stereotypes for the ones purportedly prone to the suggestions of stereotypes in the first place. For instance, “Ugh those white people so easily fooled by asian stereotypes.” Now, I KNOW the commenters around here are too smart to fall prey to that.
Tim Burton said,
July 1, 2007 at 10:54 pm
In any fight the typical standard is for police to assess who the victim is from the aggressor based on the extent of the injuries. It is important to note that this was 4 men vs. 2 men and that the 4 men actually admit to bringing a weapon into the melee. This part of the story gets glossed over for the sake of political and racial debate, which have nothing to do with the fight that ensued on that evening.
STELLA - LNCK wats GOODIE? said,
July 24, 2007 at 2:29 am
Four on two? How you get equppied with a club and four people going against 2 people with nothing? And now the two kids becasue of their choice of words are being charged with this? Hate or not Lick your wounds get up, MAN UP and don’t be a snitch! Whatever doesn’t kill you only makes you stronger. At least Paul H and Kevin B wake up in the morning and know they aren’t GIRLS, unlike JOHN LU, Reynold Liang, David Woo and Wing Chung Poon who will now live with their tails in between their legs all day.
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